[♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: hello current tv world. oh, it's debate night. >> debate night in america. >> stephanie: yay. guess who is the top of next hour? >> who? >> stephanie: governor jennifer granholm. >> how did we get that booking? >> stephanie: don't ask me. good morning jacki schechner.

>> good morning. i'm repairing for you guys to envied my space later today. who is going to fondle me under the big giant plastic table. >> i guess i'll have to. >> yeah, but you won't like it. i know you. >> stephanie: he'll do it, because he is going to take one for the team. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: here she is news woman extrordanaire, jacki schechner. >> good morning, everyone. a new "washington post" news poll say that 70% of likely voters think that romney won the first debate. several gop operatives and officials are concerned that mitt romney may not be able to replicate his success. with a stronger moderator at the helm tonight, and by all expectations, a stronger opponent, romney has a lot to

work together. gallop pulled together 80 people who happen to live close to hofstra university today. they are show up today and use dummy questions. candy crowley will review the questions and then choose who gets to speak. the media is still talking about the september 11th event in libya. and that's a topic that resinates with them. the question is does it resinate with the public? >> hilly clinton is taking all responsibility for what happened in benghazi. >> i take responsibility. i'm in charge of the state department. the president and the vice president certainly wouldn't be knowledgeable about specific decisions that are made by security professionals.

>> but, again, since voters get to ask the questions tonight, we probably will hear more about the issues that they care about than larger international affairs. we'll have to wait and see. >>just stay on your side of the screen, okay? >>brought to you by geico. 15 minutes could save 15% or more on car insurance. visit geico.com for a free rate quote.

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>> stephanie: if only. jennifer granholm later today. and isn't she on "the today show" either today or tomorrow. we'll have to find out. >> maybe we can ask her. >> stephanie: yes. charlie pierce and then richard belzer comedian extrordanaire live right over there in hour three. >> comedian actor, activist nazi soluter. >> stephanie: only on fox stations. >> and i'm going to get him to talk about the kennedy assassination. >> stephanie: oh, boy. so we are very excited and what else is there to be excited about then our teeny, tiny news pal. ♪ some on get jacki ♪ >> stephanie: good morning, jacki schechner. our teeny, tiny news pal. >> stop it. >> stephanie: i was startled i had never seen you in person before the last debate special.

>> that is so not true. >> stephanie: what do you think radio is? we make [ censor bleep ] up for three hours. >> we talk out of our ass for three hours. >> are you trying to make believe you are not teeny tiny yourself. >> stephanie: but you are only the one that is this actual size. you can crush her head if you need to. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: obviously you break all the news everywhere. but what do you think of this hilary clinton thing? >> i think we'll see a lot of kitchen table issues tonight, and i don't know if the general public is as of concerned of security breaches at the consulate, not that it's not

infinitely important but when you have a townhall format you are more likely to get questions about jobs et cetera. but it may come up because the media wants to bring it up. >> stephanie: yeah, or mitt romney? >> yeah, but i'm not sure the townhall format is conducive to those kind of questions. >> stephanie: i love that the romney camp is really worried about him being able to do the same thing. it's true because he really blew his wad with lies. >> yeah i do think that the fact that the president didn't expect mitt romney to come out

and just blatantly lie about what he campaigning on and i think that caught him off guard. when somebody comes out and lies to your face and lies to the american public and you think is this actually happening? and i just don't know that the president at the time was prepared for that. >> stephanie: did you see this thing, jim, did people second you this too, that it's an actual debating technique to really literally, like pack so many sort of lies and position changes into a steady stream that your respond >> a gish-gallop. >> yes something. >> is that english. >> stephanie: it's lillian gish.

it's called the gish gallop. >> where you just throw all of this crap against the wall -- >> yeah, debating technique? >> stephanie: can he do that again, do you think? >> no, and i don't think he can do it in this format. there has been a lot of buzz about how candy crowley is going to handle this. and i will say that candy is no push over, and she has no intention of letting this thing go awry, so she will corral the questions and candidates. and martha raddatz got such praise that she will want to duplicate that in some capacity too. >> stephanie: right, what have we learned so for, chicks rule guys drool. >> those on the far right didn't think martha raddatz did such a good job.

>> do we care what they think. i listened to fox news for like a minute on the way in to work and i felt dumber. i really felt my brain cells dying a slow painful death. >> stephanie: yes, that's why i make chris do it. >> what you just said was the most insanely idiotic thing ever said. >> it was an argument over whether i was long-island, or long island. >> no kidding? >> yes. >> stephanie: and now i'm dumber. thank you. [ bell chimes ] >> stephanie: what do you think of this controversy, candy has been on this show, and i love her. but there has been this controversy about her

saying -- that she was going to try to keep people on point, and if the question is about apples, and the question is oranges -- and people are like the moderators are not supposed to do that. >> show is a girl. she is just supposed to sit there and look pretty. there was some sort of an agreement that both sides signed, and she has been coming out and saying i'm not just going to just field questions. i'm going to moderate this debate. and i'm going to make sure they answer the question. and i don't think there's anything wrong with that. that's why you hire a moderator -- >> stephanie: yeah. >> i think that's incredibly important.

and hopefully she'll do a good job. >> stephanie: am i wrong to hope that at the last moment she'll be replaced with jennifer granholm. >> yes. >> stephanie: she wrote a thing about more debate questions we would ask. and they are great questions. are you still bound to the norquist pledge. so many questions, so little time. governor granholm will cover that with us. because there are so many questions based on mitt romney's last debate. >> here is my news conspiracy thought for the day in who are these uncommitted voters? >> stephanie: really? >> voters who happen to live close to hofstra. i don't get it.

it's not like we're talking about two candidates who are close enough on the positions -- >> i am undecided i like to listen to both sides. [♪ mysterious music ♪] >> what are they all libras? hey. >> stephanie: hey, i am too. medicare vouchers would raise costs for most seniors. >> yeah. shocker. >> stephanie: that's an actual study, not like -- what has the world come to when chris wallace is actually practicing real journalism now and again. >> yeah the six studies that were blog posts. >> stephanie: he was like they are not studies. they are bloggers. >> there are bloggers that do amazing work but the six they were citing were blogs from

romney campaign users. >> stephanie: yeah, and he even had to say, you are saying aig is not partisan -- >> aei. >> what did she say chucky cheese? >> no aig, the insurance company. >> stephanie: you know what i mean. you have studies. we have studies. >> to what? >> stephanie: shut up. jacki i'm only talking to you now. >> your vocabulary is a little off today. >> stephanie: now i'm not talking to you either. but that's my point you have your studies and we have our studies. and their studies are not studies. whether it's kaiser on health or the tax policy center on taxes, right? >> yeah, because nobody is

paying at attention. we're geeks and political geeks, and we pay much more attention that most people do and i think that's why mitt romney can get away with this stuff. >> stephanie: absolutely. we will see you later, i'm wishing you back into the corn field and the current news center. >> i want to know how tardy you are getting later? >> stephanie: you are on a need to know basis. i'm not giving you any information about the tart off. >> she is going to come in naked. >> well, she would win. she would definitely win. >> stephanie: see you at the top of the hour. >> bye kids. >> stephanie: 18 minutes -- jim won't be there, so it is hardly worth competing. 18 minutes after the hour.

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>> stephanie: ow i hurt myself. 1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number toll free from anywhere. excited about dee bait night. i had my japanese hair straightening done. if they still some on you do you turn all straight -- [♪ circus music ♪] >> why would the japanese need to invent a hair straightening -- >> stephanie: who better? >> but they don't need to straighten their hair. >> stephanie: they are givers. kathy in illinois welcome. >> caller: hi, i think we the people, or we the losers should demand an apology from mitt romney, and like i tell my ten year old if you apologize you have to understand why you are sorry. i wan an apology. we're not lazy or irresponsible,

and i don't like the republicans politicizing all of the benghazi war stuff. >> stephanie: there is a question i would like to see asked. how do you feel about the mother of the navy seal asking you to stop talking about her sons death. >> caller: it's exploitation. and just because they put rumsfeld and others on trying to scare people like usual, it's just a campaign, and the republicans are behind it. they are fox news and i hate when they say, there is scandal brewing about benghazi-gate. >> stephanie: they mean in the hallways of fox news. >> caller: they are the only ones talking about it.

>> stephanie: right. secretary of state hilary clinton has said, we have given you all of the information. >> i'm in charge of the state department, 60,000-plus people all over the world 275 posts. the president and vice president certainly wouldn't be knowledgeable about spes if if -- specific decisions made by security officials. >> stephanie: and by the way, so the vice president did not misspeak, and he thank god made the point to paul ryan you are the one that voted to cut curety. >> bow biden, said dad did not smile too much. any time the other side is going after my father for smiling too

much. you know it's a victory. it's about speaking directly to the american people. >> that was a passive-aggressive put down. this isn't about the gallons of water that he nervously drank on stage. >> stephanie: in the words of paul ryan, glug glug glug -- it's like cartoon drinking. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: marianne in michigan good morning. >> caller: good morning, stephanie. i don't think mitt romney will appear near as eloquent tonight because he hasn't had two months to prepare and have his staff constantly throwing his little

bait at him with what he is going to come back with. and david shuster made the remark that if mitt romney can't go on "the view" and face somebody like whoopi goldberg what the heck is he going to do when he face somebody like [ inaudible ]. >> stephanie: exactly. exactly. yeah, i mean and that's the thing -- i saw -- i don't know if it is out yet, but somebody there "politico" interviewed me yesterday. mitt romney has had 19 debates in a row how many townhalls, the president has been being president. mitt romney has literally been running for president since 1916, something. we shall see tonight. 29 minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." ♪ they already agreed. that's not what this is about. scott walker testified to that in congress. it won't do anything for the budget. he just wanted to strip their

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[ ♪ music ♪ ] >> the night was going great -- >> announcer: stephanie miller. . >> -- was school and dangerous. she even paid for drinks, sort of. >> stephanie: yeah. it is the "stephanie miller show." 1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number toll free from anywhere. would you like the fun facts i found it. [♪ fun-facts music ♪] >> stephanie: the debate style that mitt romney was using -- [ inaudible ]. >> stephanie: yes. mitt romney's over the top used

a technique forbidden in policy debates known as spreading. the gish-gallop, combined spreading with purposeful lying. it's common among creationists and science deniers that floods its opponent with lies. the technique of drowning the opponent in lies that the opponent cannot possibly answer to all of the lies. before we do right-wing world,

sharp rise in u.s. retail sales signal consumer optimism. >> oh no. crap. >> stephanie: official data released monday suggested improved consumer confidence. >> people are buying more crap. >> stephanie: awesome. [♪ circus music ♪] >> stephanie: tamara holder of fox news. >> holder i just met her. >> all right. tom are holder of fox news -- >> obama's performance of course was beyond shockingly pathetic. biden who tries to come back for obama did the exact opposite and i think he was on like 18 lines of cocaine or something. i think they think that things are going really well and they

are not, and they should admit it. >> stephanie: let's review. [♪ "jeopardy" theme music ♪] >> stephanie: paul ryan's ass whooping including dimension drunk, and now cocaine. [ applause ] >> ore paul ryan is a douche bag and easily smacked down. >> stephanie: exactly. bill o'reilly. >> i think joe biden hurt his own cause. many ladies [ overlapping speakers ] >> much less paul ryan who conducted himself with dignity. biden did himself and the president no favors. >> stephanie: yeah, you know what the ladies don't like bill, when you call us the ladies. >> say baby put down that pipe and get my pipe up. >> stephanie: and the ladies don't like being harassed when

they are subordinate employees, and then you have to pay off phone sex scandals. >> or have your husbands hitting on hot italian chicks while you are pregnant with their kid, allegedly. >> stephanie: yes. okay. all right. lou -- wow -- really? this is what the ladies don't like, bill? ladies don't like being scrubbed with a lufa in the shower. >> girls like me. >> stephanie: lou dobbs. >> for whatever reason she has a [ inaudible ]. taking credit seems to be no problem. you would think he was right there with sale team six. but he is nowhere present when

it comes to 23 million people out of work and his trillion dollar deficit -- >> stephanie: uh-huh. >> sure. >> stephanie: you know george bush how humble he would, he would have never mentioned it -- >> yeah. >> he was flown on to an aircraft carrier -- >> give a speech under the mission accomplished -- >> stephanie: he is like an eight year old, look i'm flying. no, you are not you are just sitting in the cockpit. rush limbaugh. >> we have people who think obama equals a free foam. there's 30% of the people who want big government to give them stuff, but we have a presidential candidate, incumbent, running for

reelection, trying to get the majority of the moron vote. >> he sounds disspirited. he is not as plucky as usual. >> maybe he is ready to overdose. >> stephanie: buck up little fella. >> free stuff -- >> an overdose would -- >> stephanie: this is making more confident in the election. dick morris wrote a book entitled the last presidential race was absolutely going to be between conde and hilary. so that's why i'm basing my entire career on it. >> i told you nine months ago and i say it again tonight, this election will be a landslide for romney. >> stephanie: oh, god, i feel better than ever now.

[ laughter ] >> stephanie: oh god. >> [ coughing ] [ mumbling ] >> stephanie: chris you could go back in right-wing world and put together a whole montage of everything he has said that was so unequivocally wrong -- >> oh, yeah. >> stephanie: kilmeade. >> the 7.8 is -- i guarantee you are going to have a correction right after the election. the 7.8 is not a real number. the real number is 15 16%, some even say 21%. i guarantee you as you are sitting there after the election, that number is going to be connected substantially

upwards. >> huge! >> some say one gajillion percent. [ bell chimes ] [ applause ] >> stephanie: the president is stupid and lazy. >> uh-huh. >> stephanie: did you see this story -- [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: speaking of donald trump. george romney aide attacks mitt romney. he said george romney would never have been seen with the likes of sheldon adelson or donald trump. waller [ inaudible ] who worked with mr. romney throughout the 960s, wrote his bid was a far cry from what i saw during the seven years i worked on george

romney's campaign. george romney's strength as a politician and public office holder was his ability to develop and hold consistent policy positions over his life. he was motivated to write the essay after his 47% comment and his decision to complain with donald trump. i think my dad would have thought the same thing. any way, he said he was annoyed by mr. romney's references to his father as an inspiration. it is on the issues? no. was it on the campaign? no. he said he wished to see the republican party return to its moderate roots, and he intends to vote for mr. obama on

election day. ♪ let's hear it for the boys ♪ >> maybe they'll see he has dimension. >> stephanie: or joe biden gave him some of his blow. >> that was it sure. >> stephanie: yes. donna in kansas, hi donna. >> caller: hi. >> stephanie: hi. >> caller: i'm glad you took my call. >> stephanie: thank you. >> caller: actually i have a question for jacki about health care. okay. hang on, we'll see if we can get jacki back on here. they think she is like right next door. donald in new jersey. >> caller: hi, momma. >> stephanie: hi go ahead. >> caller: i understand that romney has like oil holdings in iran, china and russia. why doesn't somebody ask him about that? and why is that good for the united states? >> stephanie: yeah that's seems

a little hypocritical, his china bashing. >> it's interesting that he thinks that russia is our major opponent. >> stephanie: yeah. exactly. jacki it's for you? >> yes. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: which line was it now. donna in kansas. go ahead. >> hi donna good morning. >> caller: good morning. our local newspaper ran a letter from somebody who works at hobby lobby, and they are talking about a mandate in obamacare that would force the christian business to provide the morning-after pill and work-after pill in their health insurance, and they the penalty for not complying would be up to a staggering $1.3 billion per day. that didn't sound right to me so i was hoping you could answer

that. >> it's so wrong on so many levels. [ laughter ] >> i don't even know where that number comes from, but also when the obama administration talked about requiring employers so provide access for women to contraception, that they excepted anyone who had any sort of religious exemption. so there's no organization or business required by law to offer contraception to itself employees free of charge if it has a moral or religious objection to it. >> the morning-after or week-after pill i don't know what that is? >> the morning after pill -- i don't know what the week after pill is. but from what i understand -- i

don't know i would have to take a look and see if it is considered, but i don't think it is considered to be contraception. and really, it comes down to just giving women access to birth control and contraception without having to pay extra charges for it. because for years we have been charged extra for access to contraception. >> stephanie: donna you have now be armed with information from the health care guru. >> wow. jacki was listening. >> stephanie: yeah unless she is in the living room -- >> are you shocked i'm paying attention? >> yes, you should be gathering news. >> i am. i got to go. >> stephanie: all right. 47 minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> this is all very strange. >> i agree, something is not right.

>> announcer: it's the "stephanie miller show." ♪ laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking?

(vo) john fugelsang sees what happens. i like mitt romney but i'm sorry. they guy has flipped more than a crack house mattress. (vo) so we gave him a weekly show. >> thank you.

[ ♪ music ♪ ] ♪ oh oh listen to the -- >> announcer: stephanie miller. ♪ oh oh listen to the -- >> announcer: stephanie miller. ♪ oh, oh listen to the -- >> announcer: stephanie miller. >> stephanie: it is the "stephanie miller show." this hour brought to you by go to meeting with hd faces. visit gotomeeting.com click on the try it free button and type in the promo code stephanie. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: jim ward was looking at this online.

the headline is paul ryan pitches in by wasting soap and water at ohio's soup kitchen. he stopped at a soup kitchen to do his part with socially lazy and he washed dishes that were already clean. of course the media goes along with it and -- >> oh, look at that. >> and they are wearing these perfectly pressed, creased ape pons -- >> stephanie: yeah, ryan and company showed up after the homeless had been fed and the kitchen had been cleaned up. >> they showed up. they did not have permission. >> yeah, the president of the charity is none too happy. >> stephanie: but the tv media is happy to go, what a good person he is.

and it took a print reporter -- >> yeah, and it's a faith-based organization. they are apolitical because the majority of their donation comes from private donations. >> stephanie: and this is why the nuns and bishops and many other catholics have said his budget is completely immoral. >> look at me. look at my abs. look at my biceps i'm lifting this heavy pot. >> stephanie: mary sent me an ecard that said i would be more attracted to paul ryan's body if he didn't tell me what to do with mine. [♪ circus music ♪] >> stephanie: let's go to marsha. >> caller: thank you for take my call. the reason why i called is because i wanted to add to the

conversation, and that is for me as a woman i'm offended by the republican party first of all. second of all, the republican party is not making any sense whatsoever, and it is just sad to me because the american people seem to have this misconception of where we are, and where we have been and it makes me mad, you know, >> stephanie: yeah. >> it is so sad that there is so much misrepresentation, and that's why i like you and several other news agency. >> stephanie: thank you, i consider myself a news agency. melody is columbus on -- you are on the "stephanie miller show." hey, melody. >> caller: hey, stephanie.

i love your show. and listen to you every day. >> stephanie: thank you. >> caller: i was going to talk about eddie munster coming to ohio and pretending like he was helping out at a soup kitchen. >> stephanie: isn't that a perfect story? >> caller: it is. >> look at how concerned we are about the 47% of freeloaders. >> stephanie: that's why i love joe biden saying show me something. >> look i'm wearing an apron. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: all right. david axelrod on the debate tonight. >> i think he'll make some adjustments on tuesday and i'm not going to get into detail about strategic changes that he might make but i think he'll be aggressive in making the case for his view of where we should go as a country. >> stephanie: governor jennifer granholm who will join us in

just a couple of minutes, she has some great questions, jim. >> yep. >> stephanie: is there any chance i would break in there and put a bag over candy crowley put her in a closet and put jennifer granholm in -- >> i think people would notice. >> stephanie: i could get her a candy crowley mask, and we would stick governor granholm in there -- >> people would notice. >> stephanie: all right. we talked about would the grover norquist pledge trump your pledge to uphold the constitution. you said your 47% comment was elegantly stated as elegantly as you can tell us if you still believe that 47% of american people believe they are victims. should the u.s. be subsidizing the oil industry?

do you still believe that climate change is occurring and human activity is a contributing factor? the republican platform [ inaudible ] loans the [ inaudible ] says that would cost $60 million more to students -- blah, blah blah -- given that cost if you adopt paul ryan's proposal to cut pell grants how would you help families pay for their children's education? if a personhood amendment lands on your desk would you sign? would you encourage your sons so enlist if we went to war again. all good questions. we will talk to governor granholm about all of that next on the "stephanie miller show." ♪

equivalent to private sector jobs. if you have, say the private sector is doing okay or somewhat i'm going to be on with the governor tomorrow night. she is awesome. we'll be right back on the "stephanie miller show." [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: hello current tv world. jacki schechner news woman extrordanaire, health care, geek lover of clarification? >> yes i did a little bit of research and it turns out the morn after pill is considered emergency contraception, so that would be covered, but not to be concerned with any of the pills

that would actually terminate a pregnancy. the morning after pill is called ago like [ inaudible ]. sorry for that mispronunciation. >> stephanie: that's right. >> but it's not the same thing as emergency contraception. >> stephanie: she is like a fact tiger. >> she is. >> stephanie: she really is. >> mee-ow. >> stephanie: what happens at current tv center stays there. >> it's also much simpler than that, i just don't like to be wrong. >> stephanie: you are never wrong. >> once in a while. good morning, everybody. political has a good story pointing out it may not be the big issues but the small every day things that the candidates that could get tripped up on tonight. cost of gas, or meals or the

minimum wage? >> rick berg should know the minimum wage, he voted against raising it three times. >> stephanie: that's now being used in an ad against him, of course. the national wage is $7.20, and higher in some states. both consolidates would be smart to know that a loaf of bread is $1.41, mortgage average rate is 3.46%. the romney, ryan campaign is getting good at faking it. paul ryan took a stop at a youngstown soup kitchen. the director of the charity say

it is an a-political faith-based charity, and had paul ryan called ahead to ask to stop by they would have said no because they wouldn't want to lose their private donations. the troops love me. >>only on current tv. [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? from silver screens... to flat screens... twizzlerize your entertainment everyday with twizzlers the twist you can't resist.

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chris? >> how great governor granholm was on meet the press. [ bell chimes ] [ applause ] >> stephanie: that's correct. >> wouldn't shut up. >> stephanie: why look who joins us now. >> you say that to all of the governors, i know. >> stephanie: i did not. i actually emailed you during meet the press. >> thank you, it was fun. i'm chuckling because i just got a tweet because the romney tax plan has been revealed and for your listeners they could go to www.romneytaxplan.com. all of the details specifically laid out. it's a riot. >> stephanie: in what sense? >> it's just one of those things you have to be there. it's a terrible thing to do over the radio, i know. >> stephanie: are there specifics there -- >> you just have to --

>> what was the address again. >> romneytaxplan.com. >> stephanie: i was reading a list of your questions you want to ask mitt tonight. and i have a plan. i'm going to kidnap candy crowley, give you a candy crowley mask and get you into this debate. >> my list of questions was submitted for the first debate and none of them were asked yet. steph, i'm actually starting to feel sorry for mitt romney. it has got to be exhausting halving the jumping back and forth in the way he has had to over these debates and over the past bit of time. the tax cut that he said he did have, he doesn't have it. the obamacare is he going to allow people with preexisting conditions, he not? 47% are they victims are they

not? the supreme court. it has to be really exhausting. >> stephanie: if nothing else i think the president has an awful lot of ammunition tonight? >> totally. i think that he is -- you know it's going to be different though. i really want to settle everybody down a little bit in terms of what the progressive community is expecting. i think people understand this is a townhall with undecided voters, and largely undecided voters don't want people going hard at one another. they want it to be civil. so the president cannot be obnoxious obviously. but he can respectfully call mitt romney on every one of those lies. and who knows, mitt romney could switch from one debate to the next, but if he does the president is going to be busy tonight calling him on stuff.

>> stephanie: that was one of the moments in debate history when he called the president pre-emptively -- >> oh, my god. it is just a classic case of projection. >> stephanie: i was just going so say every psychologist in the country said project much? is this a specific debate tactic he used? >> yeah, when he said for the fifth time the $716 billion in cuts that the put put out -- i was screaming. current tv is going to be covering the debate from new york city tonight, i wish you were going to be joining us. >> stephanie: oh i'm at the

kids table in l.a. we get to shoot spitballs and not have to be serious. >> we do a bit of that too, but it's totally fun. >> stephanie: the coverage is amazing. it's like a mensa meeting. >> it's very fun because you get the twitter stream simultaneously. seeing what people are saying about it as it's happening is i think a great feature for those multi-taskers out there. >> stephanie: yeah obviously the other thing about the townhall, the president -- appears more human. mitt romney has a hard time -- >> well, you know, i would be careful about that because mitt romney has been doing these townhall meetings and if you talk to any of the reporters, he is actually believe it or not, pretty good at these townhall meetings, and like the used car salesman that he is he conveys

empathy. what he says behind closed doors to big donor is another thing, but he is a good salesman. >> i understand you want to look at the odometer but you don't need to do that. >> exactly. trust me. and that's what the president can chip away at is the issue of trust, didn't you think? >> stephanie: yeah. i love -- you are doing the today show tomorrow? >> i did it this morning. >> stephanie: that's what kills me about the main stream media. meet the press kills me because he opens with some say the vice president's performance was over the top. and that's the story line other than the mayor who said he crushed paul ryan. >> yeah, he is awesome.

>> stephanie: yeah. and here we are talking about style and not the fact that joe biden clearly crushed him -- >> right. right. at least in the cnn poll which is supposed to be objective. so hopefully the president can do that night. i think he'll bring his a-game. there was an interesting column yesterday where his suggestion was that the president go in knowing that he is fighting on behalf of all of the people across the country who really want him to fight for the middle class; that he's not going in on behalf of himself; that he is going in on behalf of the cause of other people. and i think that is the right frame of mind and i think he'll bring all of us into that debate with him. >> stephanie: would you like to see covered that we missed last time? >> i do feel -- the last

question about choice was an important question. i hope that it plays a more prominent role especially when you see poles showing that the gender gap narrowing or evening. i just didn't think it has gotten out there how extreme the republican party is with mitt romney at the head. immigration i would love to see covered. and again, mitt romney's extreme positions on that. and i -- you know, i'm anxious to hear the concerns of i hope of the audience, to see how mitt romney reacts on his feet. hopefully these questions will be a little less predictable. >> stephanie: i hope someone asks your question of you said your 47% statement was not eloquently stated, as eloquently

are as you can please tell us what you mean. >> right. the president will use that comment, i bet ya tonight, and i hope he talks about the auto rescue, which is another thing that did not come up in the previous debate. so i think there's a huge opportunity. >> stephanie: that's something you might know a little something-something about. >> exactly. >> stephanie: your head must have exploded when mitt romney said i'll take a lot of credit for that. >> oh my gosh honestly really i don't now how anybody -- he has such audacity the audacity in the first instance of telling his home state where he grew up where his dad was governor and the head of an auto company, telling us at a moment when all three were going to be

crumbling, begging for help from washington for him to say let detroit go bankrupt. the fact of pure cynicism is something that will never be forgiven in michigan and that's michigan normally would be in play, but people remember that when you get stabbed in the back and then for him to take credit is laughable. >> stephanie: that standing there going oh, my preexisting conditions will be covered. oh, no i don't have a $5 million tax cut. i can understand how the president was almost like winded. >> yeah, it will be exhausting if the president -- that's really the trick the president has tonight is how much time does he spend correcting the misstatements and how much time does he spend laying out his plan. and i think the opportunity tonight is so great for the president because of these

numbers that have come out in the past couple of weeks. obviously he has been talking about the jobs numbers, and all of that. but the consumer confidence being at a five-year high and foreclosures being at a five-year low, and last year the growth of government spending was the lowest it has been for 50 years because the president has been cutting. so i just -- and i think that takes another leg out of the stool these guys are trying to assemble. >> stephanie: yes, absolutely. gov, guess what i'm wearing this morning, your tiger cap. >> you have got to hate those yankees. i am sighing this in new york, i should probably lower my voice. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: governor thanks so much for taking time with us.

>> all right. my dear. talk to you soon. >> stephanie: she loves it when i wear this hat. >> you have to stay tuned to current for their coverage of the debate. >> stephanie: yeah we're just the kids table. >> what they do is incredible. >> stephanie: they are like the a-team, we're pee wee league. we're t-ball. we'll be right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> it's a combination of low self-esteem, blow blood sugar, and mixing red wine with my dog's painkillers. >> announcer: it's the niese.

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♪ it's me -- >> announcer: stephanie miller. ♪ it's okay. every time you come around [ inaudible ] ♪ >> this hour of the "stephanie miller show" brought to you by greg palate how to steal an election in nine easy steps. he investigates karl rove and their buck buddies, i said buck buddies. >> stephanie: oh thank you. [ applause ] >> stephanie: governor granholm was awesome. charlie pierce at the bottom of the hour. richard belzer next hour. >> how did he get so lucky. >> stephanie: i'm so impressed with myself.

vernita, welcome. >> caller: applause applause to current tv. i was looking for a replacement to morning joe, and i found you and bill press. thank you. >> stephanie: oh, thank you. >> caller: i was hoping and i think most thinking people are hoping that elections would be an arena for introducing big ideas, and barack obama at the convention did talk about citizenry. but the big idea is the issue of race. and when i listened earlier to the fella who was taking over for bill press this morning -- >> stephanie: john fugelsang, yes. >> caller: at the end of the program someone asked a question about did he think that race-baiting or something to that extent was an issue in this election. he said no it was just a matter of stirring up the base for the

republicans. i so strongly disagree with that. the racial overtones that the republicans have done and stood up for, and willard mitt romney has not taken -- that the buck stop with him about it -- >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: are just awful. what they are doing to the devastation to people of color the young people in this country, is unbelievable. >> stephanie: yeah, you have john sununu saying the president is lazy un-american, stupid. >> yep. >> stephanie: it's really -- and then this was the latest tommy thompson's son tells a birther joke. he has apologized after he told a joke about sending barack obama back to kenya. guess who was there, jim, reince

preibus. >> reince preibus! >> stephanie: exactly. here is the clip. >> we have an opportunity to send president obama back to chicago or kenya. [ applause ] >> stephanie: yeah. hah, hah hah, hah -- >> so people of wisconsin know that tommy thompson has a birther in the womanry. >> stephanie: and one donor said we're taking donations for that trip. ♪ it ain't a man's world, you go girl ♪ >> stephanie: right. okay. let's go to lynn in illinois. welcome. >> caller: hi. thanks for taking my calls. >> stephanie: thanks for calling. >> caller: i wanted to ask you a question, and i want a real serious answer mr. jim, i know it is a funny show but this guy

gives me the hee bee gee bees. mitt romney and i'm curious about the numbers of women who are now putting this gap together that we had. we had this thing in the bag, practically a couple of weeks ago with women voting for obama. and i don't understand how one debate with a bunch of lies can show numbers so close. women don't forget that this man is against abortion. he didn't support -- what is his name -- ryan didn't support the lead better law. these numbers are scary. >> stephanie: yeah. in ohio the numbers are the same with women. so i think -- we'll see now that

these job numbers are set in. and with tonight's debate but yeah, i don't trust them either. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: my good friend rob reiner, he'll be on on friday. he directed a new ad on specifically the issue of women. honestly, i don't understand how a woman can vote for mitt romney. >> i want to talk to you about women. >> and about mitt romney. >> mitt romney is for ending funding to planned parenthood. >> including cancer screenings. >> he said he would overturn roe v. wade. >> we have republicans trying to reinvent rape. >> vote. >> vote. >> vote. >> vote for barack obama. >> [ inaudible ]. >> too bad they couldn't find

any hot women in texas. >> stephanie: yeah. >> i never understand why people like rush limbaugh say that all democratic women are ugly. like callista gingrich is a catch. >> if you are from mars. >> stephanie: stephanie you on the "stephanie miller show" show. good morning. >> caller: good morning. does anybody remember in '04 when governor snow snooki was killing obama's character on his [ inaudible ] palling around with -- you know with that scary terrorist bill ayers, so why isn't anyone bringing up romney's and ryan's [ inaudible ] they don't seem to have any celebrities who care about people as a whole.

>> stephanie: yep. all right. well you just said it. 29 minutes after the hour. charlie pierce next. ♪ (vo) what is said here could decide the election. current tv presents coverage of the presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> was this the game-changer? is this going to change the dynamic? (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >>now that's politically direct.

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"video in america." ♪ pierce ♪ ♪ pierce ♪ ♪ why is everybody always laughing with me ♪ [ laughter ] >> stephanie: good morning charlie pierce. >> good morning to you all. i'm on a choo choo to new york going to the debate. >> stephanie: oh, good for you. so what do you think? >> i don't know if much is going to change. but this is the last chance for spontaneity in this campaign. >> stephanie: yeah. >> yeah. >> i hope it's not a boxers or briefs thing. >> remember the boxers or brief question didn't come in a real townhall, that came back in an mtv forum. >> that's right. that came back in the day of [ inaudible ]. >> exactly.

good memory charlie pierce. >> stephanie: there has already been a mini controversy over candy crowley saying that she would actually moderate the debate. >> we have both sides whining at this point. it's time for the professionals to shut up. >> stephanie: yeah. >> this is obviously a big chance for the president to recoup. it's not a great format for that, unfortunately. >> stephanie: when you say something spontaneous, isn't that where romney generally gets in trouble. >> that's exactly right. that's the one thing you can count on. creating the illusion of being a carbon-based life form is not his strong point. >> stephanie: exactly. >> that joke just fell right down the well, didn't it? >> stephanie: no, no. i was distracted by your funny writings from what you were

saying. [ laughter ] [♪ mysterious music ♪] >> stephanie: charlie pierce we talked about tommy thompson has a little birther son. >> yeah, way back in the day when i was a baby reporter tommy thompson was one of my only republican sources, and he was really a pretty good guy. and now he is claiming that tammy bald -- >> stephanie: yeah you said jason has since apologized. >> yeah, but people already know it, and you sounded like an idiot. there are a lot of ways to run for office now, being a birther -- the most telling thing on that videotape is all of the laughs we got.

>> stephanie: yeah, this is the 47% video. >> yeah, they believe this stuff. it is not political tactic for them. >> stephanie: right. >> they go home and marinade in this stuff for seven or eight hours a day, and then they come to believe it. >> stephanie: absolutely. i love that meet the press sticks in your craw as much as it does mine. the fact that he opens with here is what "saturday night live" thinks of joe biden's style. ignoring the fact that he crushed paul ryan on substance. >> that was actually what stuck in my craw a week from the debate were the people saying joe biden won in debate on substance. stop. that's what the country needs to know. one guy knew what he was talking about, and the other guy didn't. >> stephanie: yeah and you pointed out about tom brokaw.

he said talking to both campaigns, they both thought the presidential debate was a draw on substance. and you said wait a minute i don't know a single democrat who thinks that it was a draw. >> i know. is he just having cocktails over at lennie [ inaudible ] house? >> stephanie: you say paul ryan may never get that chance on afghanistan off of the bottom of his shoe, for instance but all of it without having his tongue turn to flame that mean there is no god. [ laughter ] >> i know he is supposed to be the [ inaudible ] at the network, now, but there is no reason to think that he is talking to any of these people he said he is talking to. >> stephanie: right. and this popped out at me too. so i was going to say i talked to a lot of major business

leaders who want mitt romney to be elected, but as you say, oh, balls major business leaders want their taxes cut, and tom brokaw still has faith in the patriotism of our ownership class makes me want to go to the aluminum siding business in south dakota. [ laughter ] >> that's astonishing to me. how can you look at what the, quote unquote, business leaders into to this country for eight years and have any confidence in their patriotism. >> stephanie: yeah, and alex -- isn't he say barack obama is a man -- he is of course a romney surrogate, and he had barack obama is a man with no core or something like that? >> yeah. >> stephanie: it was unbelievable. >> mitt has a core in fact he has several of them. which core would you like to see

tonight? i think we'll see the moderate core tonight. >> yeah. >> stephanie: you say castlono sited the john f. kennedy thing. ryan did this the other night. first of all, no he didn't. it was lbj that got the tax cut passed. and this is what ryan tried in the debate right? >> lbj was the one that got the tax cut passed and he did it because he had kennedy's corpse to beat people's head with. >> stephanie: yeah. and then my favorite thing, you say later the dancing master meaning david gregory stat down with steven colbert, and lot played like a piano.

what has happened to american journalism? you are what happened to american journalism. charlie you there? >> we lost charlie. >> he went through a tunnel. >> so he can't talk about me anymore. >> stephanie: he can't talk about tom brokaw or -- >> travis see if we can get him back. >> stephanie: but he is taking about the senate raise. elizabeth warren's rise remains steady. senator mcdreamy has developed a technique to guild his own lilly. charlie says brown referred to as having served in afghanistan as the "boston globe" points out, he was there for two weeks of national guard duty. really it was more like a visit.

[ wah wah ] >> stephanie: he was in the very rear of the guard apparently. there he is again. >> i was insufficiently unaware of the gap. >> stephanie: oh, okay. i was reading your point on senator mcdreamy and the building of his lilly. >> yeah, he keeps saying -- you know this kind of weird stuff, or grandizing stuff and that turns out not to be true yeah i would say the two weeks is more of a visit. >> yeah, he is a, quote unquote ranking member of the armed services committee. yeah, he sixth ranking committee member. if five guys die, scott brown gets to be chairman. >> stephanie: what is

elizabeth's warren's latest lead? >> somewhere between four and six depending on which poll you read. the most optimistic news is saying that she has like $12 million she has raised in the last quarter. so she is not going to get outspent. >> right. >> and there isn't another debate until right before the election. so given the fact that the president is going to have extraordinarily long coat tails in massachusetts, i think she is in fairly good shape. >> stephanie: that is very encouraging news. charlie pierce can't wait to check in with you after the debate. >> good luck on the electric tv. i won't be able to see it because i'll be stuck in the hall. but i'm sure you will be terrific. >> stephanie: as will you. love ya charlie pierce. [ applause ] >> stephanie: that cell phone

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after the hour. here is paul ryan. >> the president came in office saying he would cut the deficit in half in his first term. he has given us four years of trillion dollars deficits. he has added almost more public debt than almost all previous presidents combined. >> baby jesus christ. ♪ liar, liar, liar, liar i'm sick and tired of lies from you ♪ >> stephanie: that is one of their favorite lies. it is just untrue. he is actually on the lower end of most presidents in terms of debt. it is george bush's two wars that he didn't put on the books, and the tax cuts for the rich -- >> uh-huh. >> stephanie: ed gillespie. >> the 20% tax rate i think people will understand that that is a brood principal that that

tax rate needs to come down and we need to broaden the base. >> stephanie: yeah. and has chris wallace pointed out the six study or -- >> whatever! >> stephanie: -- were blogs. one was a george bush advisor. >> there have been studies. no don't look at them. >> stephanie: yeah and all non-partisan places disagree with paul ryan. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: here is an actual study. converting medicare into a voucher program would increase premiums for the majority of seniors. hope that comes up tonight. >> yeah. >> stephanie: according to the kaiser family foundation. >> premium support. i support large premiums. [♪ mysterious music ♪] >> stephanie: that's exactly

what it is. more than half would have paid higher premiums 8 #% would have paid higher premiums unless they switched to a cheaper plan. [ applause ] >> stephanie: thank you eddie munster. >> but it's premium. that means it's good. >> wheel of right-wing hypocrites! >> stephanie: bain maintains china ties. >> they are lying. who knows what they are doing over there. it's a blind trust. >> stephanie: auto parts manufacturers who plan to dot eastern china, would seem to underscore mitt romney's [ inaudible ] costing america jobs. yes. >> you think? >> stephanie: nine years ago the company bought two factories

that employed about 500 people in michigan, and both were shut down, and they manufacture parts in china. china has designated an export-base where companies are eligible for the sort of subsidies mr. romney said have caused an unfair trade imbalance. but there is a twist. it is owned by bain capital! [♪ dramatic music ♪] >> stephanie: how has china been so successful in taking away our jobs recently he asked? well because of places like bain capital. [ applause ] >> stephanie: there is a global auto parts maker that is in the process of closing a factory in illinois and moving the plant to? >> china.

>> stephanie: uh-huh. [ applause ] >> stephanie: oh, damn you china. sure hope he rails about that tonight. let's go to -- let's see here. beth in connecticut. hi, beth. hello, beth? hello, beth? good night, beth. >> oh. >> stephanie: let's go to truman in maryland.% welcome. >> caller: howdy. i'm so glad you guys are on tv, let me tell you. >> stephanie: me too. >> caller: as i was heading over to your program today in between john fugelsang sitting in for -- >> stephanie: bill press. >> caller: yeah, bill press, there was something on cnn -- not cnn, but -- oh c-span that blew me away. this guy from fox was telling

these college kids not to vote. and, you know, he -- he is doing it in this round about way of saying if you really don't feel like you know what is going on don't vote. >> wow. >> stephanie: my god. >> caller: and it just drove me crazy. because i'm tired of these talking heads from the -- romney people and stuff like this, and it just -- just hearing that just in just in -- infuriated the hell out of me. >> stephanie: yeah. i know. a tea party leader suggested america would be better off if women didn't vote. she believes women are too mean, hateful and diabolical to vote. our country might have been better off if it was still just

men voting. there is nothing worse than a bunch of mean hateful women. >> oh, my god! >> stephanie: the whole time i work i would much have a male boss than a female boss. she is a mitt romney supporter that thinks women are double minded and you can't trust them. [ laughter ] >> dark sided! >> she is dark sided too! >> stephanie: wow wee. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: we mentioned that romney was setting a study by a former george bush economic advisor. did you read the story, george w. bush is agoraphobic now, and he likes to paint pictures of dogs and landscapes. >> i'm working on my coloring book. i'm working on a picture of dogs playing poker.

>> stephanie: he likes to paint dogs and arid texas landscapes. he has become increasingly agoraphobic. he doesn't like people. he never did. >> i'm afraid of agoras. [ laughter ] >> kind of almost feel a little sorry for -- >> stephanie: no. >> okay. maybe not. >> i don't want to outside. >> stephanie: bewildered by air. >> i'm afraid the booingy man might get me. >> stephanie: terry go ahead. >> caller: i was calling in defense of the democratic panic when things don't go their way? >> stephanie: what do you mean? >> caller: i don't know. i'm talking about how most democrats are more informed and independently thinking and if you compare them to the

republicans who are more brainwashed. i'm still getting my breath back -- >> and george romney was the last republican to admit that the republicans are brainwashed -- >> yeah. >> stephanie: let's go to florence in baltimore. >> caller: hi, how are you. >> i want to know how can mitt romney get all of this money from profit and he says that he is not working for bain, but that bain is just cutting out -- out of the united states to china and he is getting millions of dollars. >> stephanie: yes. >> i want one of them jobs. >> stephanie: yeah it is a blind trust. mr. mcgoo runs his trust. >> there you have done it again. >> i think it's a little bit nearsighted. >> stephanie: i think it's [ inaudible ]. >> it is a stigmatism. >> stephanie: richard belzer is

on his way in. >> no! >> stephanie: right back on the "stephanie miller show." ♪ "stephanie miller show." ccm01790

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show." richard belzer thinks the president is going to win by a wide margin. >> yes back to 2008, we later learned that obama won by many, many more votes than initially -- he won my millions more than they initially said than most people are aware of. >> stephanie: right. >> so unfortunately -- with -- let's just talk about whatever you want to talk about. >> stephanie: well, thank you. yeah, i'm wondering -- >> it's your show. >> stephanie: i'm wondering if libya is going to come up tonight. because for mitt romney trying to politelize that before he even knew what was happening, to the mother coming out and saying stop politicizing our love's one

east death -- and david axelrod yesterday. >> sometimes intelligence has to catch up with what is happening on the ground. >> stephanie: everyone is just trying to finish the investigation and find out what happened. >> exactly. and sometimes early information is wrong. it doesn't mean you summary illy dismiss the entire foreign policy of a presidency. and a lot of people don't know ten libbians died protecting our ambassador. most libbians loved him. he knew the area and understood it. and another story which is not being told which i hope obama brings up tonight, is when benghazi was under siege by gadhafi, he wowed to wipe the

city out. our generals told obama let's make a fly zone and not get involved. and obama said wait a minute gadhafi is not flying there, we have to save these people. and obama singularly like jack kennedy when he was in office he was bill lived by generals, and he grew into the office. obama is growing into the office and he made an amazing decision to save a million civilians from gadhafi because there is no oil -- there's no strategic interest other than humanitarian. >> stephanie: right. right. >> sorry -- >> stephanie: no all good points. i love -- jim and i have talked about this a lot. so they made a big story about paul ryan listens to rage against the machine. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: paul ryan is a jack ass says rage against the

machine. he said he is the embodiment of the machine our music rages against. paul ryan is a jack ass before he listened to rage against the machine and came out as a jack ass after words. >> yeah. >> stephanie: and i loved that peter berg of friday night lights, mitt romney co-opted their slogan. and he is like stop it you jack ass. >> stop it. >> stephanie: yeah, stop it. >> what is disturbing to me is millions of people are going to vote for romney and ryan only because they don't like our president or they hate our president, or they don't think our president is christian, or think they he is born in kenya or all of these things.

i remember in the 60s we were in the street, vietnam war, civil rights stone wall and gay rights, these battles were fought, people died -- friends of mine died and here we are in 2012 almost like wait a minute do we have to do this again? >> stephanie: yep. >> and the thing is -- >> stephanie: i hope they try to get romney on some specifics tonight. because joe biden said it best. what do you want? do you want another war? what is your plan that is different than ours? >> biden was great. and they are trying to say, well, ryan held his own -- >> stephanie: he smiled too much and he was too mean. >> yeah. i thought that was great in laugh in because what else can you do? >> stephanie: yeah, it was a non-verbal way to come back.

>> and everyone is mystified about obama's first debate performance, and there are all of these theories about it? and i'm a bit mystified, but first of all a lot of people forget, he is the president of the united states. that debate is not the only thing on his mind. who knows what presidential daily briefing he got that day. >> uh-huh. >> stephanie: meanwhile mitt romney has been focused only on running for president since 1942. >> yeah, and consistently lying. >> stephanie: yeah, i just learned that jennifer granholm is a scamp. it's a joke website because you chase the details thing around the page. she is a scamp twenty-nine minutes after the hour.

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[ ♪ music ♪ ] >> announcer: stephanie miller. >> who! oh, my! >> stephanie: uh-huh. it is the "stephanie miller show" thirty-four minutes after the hour. richard belzer is with us and here is a copy of her book. what were you and jim ward just discussing? >> we were getting into conspiracies. but my book made it on to the

"new york times" best seller list, which i'm very surprised because it's a very dark book. >> stephanie: i always think of you as so sunny, really? [ bell chimes ] >> but the book is doing very well, and i continue to promote it, because i am feel a civic responsibility at this time because people want this information. and it proves that marilyn monroe was murdered and the kenendys did not murder here. they called the studio pr guy when they found marilyn's body. then two of her doctors, then

peter laugher, and thirst police officer on the scene said -- staged event. >> uh-huh. >> this is staged. because she was clean, ramrod straight and the streets were clean. they say she took dozens of pills with a glass of water. there was nothing in her stomach. her bathroom sink was broken. she was on the phone talking to a friend saying i heard something i'll be back in a minute. never came back. there were bruises on her body. no needle marks. she was murdered by an injectable enma. >> stephanie: yikes. >> yeah she had a hair appointment the next day, and bobby was at her house that day although they deny it we know

how that a police officer pulled over a car and in that car was robby kennedy, peter laugher, and the driver and the police officer saw the attorney general his boss excuse me and let him go. so he did not kill marilyn, the kenendys did not kill marilyn, but they didn't call the police for six hours so they cleaned up the scene. the kenendys were involved in the cover upbecause he didn't want to be drawn into this murder investigation. so they took her diaries and just cleaned everything -- >> stephanie: wow. >> here is what people don't understand -- not to be patronizing, but i am -- [ laughter ] >> sometimes elements within our government will commit a heinous act, and then other elements of

the government that weren't even in on it go holy s we have to cover this up out of institutional embarrassment. so then people write whole books about it. but no, a lot of times people who were covering up major crimes had no knowledge of the crime. >> stephanie: you and i probably share that frustration with the main stream media. you were saying having their main job is to make it seem like a horse race no matter what. >> yeah. >> stephanie: and there's no two sides to -- for instance did the stimulus work? it did work. >> yes. >> stephanie: but they have to create a false equivalent -- >> horse race is horse crap basically. >> stephanie: look at the intersection of comedy. and meet the press opens with here is what "saturday night live" opens with. who cares he crushed paul ryan on substance. >> the idea that now meet the

press which was at one point a revered pretty straight news show that asked several questions, and then -- i don't know who [ inaudible ] is or who winds him up in the morning? [ laughter ] >> stephanie: see this is what i'm wondering -- >> yeah, you are right, leading with a bit from "saturday night live" -- >> stephanie: as if that's the narrative. and chris you were asking earlier are they going to ask stuff like boxers are briefs tonight -- [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: president obama weighs in on the war between nicki minaj and mariah carry. >> really? >> stephanie: they asked him. a morning show in miami. and the president said i think they'll be able to sort it out. they are both outstanding artists who will be able to move forward not backward. but these are the questions that he is asked today.

>> yeah. >> stephanie: what do you think of this fake pr stunt fight -- >> i'm embarrassed to say i vaguely know who those people are, and i have no idea why they are fighting or -- >> stephanie: i don't actually know who the one is -- >> i mean i know who they are, but it's like -- >> stephanie: yeah. as you were saying your hope is, that we will also have a first women president and then a first gay president, and then the right-wing will just disintegrate. [ explosion ] >> woman, gay, jew. >> stephanie: there you go. >> hilary has to pick a vice president who is cool -- >> stephanie: that would be awesome [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: this letter from a 14-year-old home schooled teen has been going around jasmine says homosexuality will lead to the [ inaudible ] of humanity by

ducks. she wrote ducks also nest in pairs and if we allow same-sex marriage then the ducks will have evolved further than we have. i don't want my children to compete with ducks. you can't be in favor of homosexuality or the ducks will win. >> she is kidding right? >> stephanie: no she is home schooled. >> the whole idea of home school is pretty chilling stuff. >> stephanie: now we're going to get letters -- >> i'm sure there are great home schooling parents, but if you believe that jesus road around on a dinosaur, then that is a problem. >> stephanie: but romney and ryan are for cutting education funding, pell grants and all of that stuff. so there is a stark choice. romney said i love teachers.

we should have more. >> twenty-seven lies in 31 minutes was the story the next day. obama still won. the hand reading over the debate astounds me. >> stephanie: let's go to ryan in toledo. welcome. >> caller: good morning, guys. >> good morning, holy toledo. [ laughter ] >> caller: i wanted to make a comment about the 47% thing. i know everybody has commented on it to death but i have ms just like ann romney. and i worked up until the time i got sick. not that i got sick on anything of my fault. >> how is your horse? >> caller: and to be called a moocher because i am sick is disgraceful. >> stephanie: i hope he is asked

to explain those comments. he just said i was wrong. he went on for ten minutes, right. >> caller: oh, yeah. >> and the utter contempt in his voice -- sorry, ryan go ahead. >> caller: oh, no idea. >> i'm sorry for your infirmity and i hope you hang in there, and thanks for this call, but you are bringing up a very good point, the utter contempt that romney showed the tone of his voice -- >> stephanie: yeah. >> -- there was no hint of humanity or compassion or understanding, and so summary illy lump in wounded veterans -- >> stephanie: i sew rosy perez talking about this. i would have done much better if i was mexican. there is a reason he is losing

by 60 points among latinos. >> yeah. >> you are being generous by calling it humor. >> stephanie: yeah rich-person laughter. elaine in oklahoma. hi. >> caller: hello. i know it's not relevant to what we have just been speaking about, but i just cringe every time i see papa john's football promo is going to give away 2 million pizzas but he can't afford $0.14 per pizza for health care. >> what a great line. >> stephanie: it's one of those ceos that is vaguely threatening employees. i'm going to have to raise the price of pizza -- >> you might lose your health care if obama gets back in. >> is that the guy with the bad makeup on? >> yes. you are absolutely right. >> oh god. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: frank in

virginia beach you are on with richard belzer. >> caller: hey, how are you doing? good to talk to you. >> stephanie: good morning. >> good morning. >> caller: richard i have to believe with you about american people being so smart and being able to see past things. >> did i say that? was i high? >> stephanie: that seems too hopeful. >> yeah, go ahead. i'm sorry, finish your thought. forgive me. >> caller: romney is the same person he was before the debate -- >> oh, yeah yeah. >> caller: as he was after the debate. and one of the quick things that people have got to for god's sake have to understand the importance of the selection. we are looking at possibly two supreme court justices -- >> i know. that's so key. >> caller: this one debate that we have a president that is not worthy anymore is it

because -- it was like watching somebody from the steph ford set come out -- >> you are talking about romney? >> caller: yeah. >> that's a good call. >> stephanie: and i know people -- that's just like a road thing you say. it's all about the supreme court. it is. because this country has survived a lot of horrible presidencies, but supreme court could be forever. >> and the current supreme court has -- and i study this stuff, because i'm crazy, but -- [ laughter ]. >> but let's say 99.9% of their rulings come down on the side of the corporation, the landlord the loss, the ceo, they never, ever come down on the side of the citizen and this -- >> stephanie: this court doesn't. >> that's what i'm talking about, this particular court. the reason malito was chosen was

bought the right-wing wanted -- between him, roberts, scalia and that guy who never talks -- >> stephanie: clarence thomas. he is watching porn in his defense. >> i know someone who went to school with him, and they said every thursday night they would go to his house and watch porn movies. >> stephanie: really? all right. forty-seven minutes after the hour. back with the remaining moments with richard belzer on the "stephanie miller show." >> announcer: okay, i just spewed on my dashboard again. it's the "stephanie miller show." ♪ >>barack was having to work out the fact that people react to him based on his racial makeup. i felt he identified with other outsiders and that was a good story.

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♪ come out -- >> announcer: stephanie miller. ♪ don't make we wait the catholic girls start much too late, but sooner or later it comes into place, darling only the good die young ♪ >> stephanie: yeah. yeah. dead wrong. exactly. only the good die young. 1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number toll free from anywhere. dave writes in one of my favorite belzer moments is when he referred to ann coulter as that fascist party doll. [ laughter ] >> i couldn't resist. and i didn't know she was going to be on that night. >> oh, dear. >> bill is an associate of mine. and i started to walk off the show, and he said where are you going?

and i said i can't -- and he is said oh, no she is on a screen. and i called her that name and she said is that osama bin laden or richard belzer. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: her cackling witt. so why anyone talks to her. she is not a woman. she is not a man. something else has gone on -- >> stephanie: yeah all kinds of wrong. >> mental illness, maybe, and i don't mean to be mean. i mean to be mean. >> stephanie: yeah. i have said this many times before, i used to have her on when i hosted equal time and she was just one of the many blond republican women -- and then she said i got to say more things to sell more books. >> and to me that makes it

worse. it's worse than donald trump which is like lower than -- i'm so sorry. but people who know better but do it anyway. in l.a. they stab you in the front and new york they stab you in the back, but when people out and say things on some level you know they don't believe. they are just saying them for attention or political purpose or whatever, then it's even worse than real racism in a way. >> stephanie: yeah, that's exactly right. >> and then they are disqualified as a human race. >> stephanie: that's a lot of what they are doing. it's note even dog whistle anymore. >> no, it's fog horns. >> stephanie: racial fog horns. >> kenyan! >> stephanie: she's my friend. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: what are you expecting tonight at the townhall? just the differences from the

last -- >> well, and another thing is predicting what is going to happen -- >> stephanie: yeah, we just make stuff up. >> we know what we would like to happen and what should happen and we know the president is far more capable than he was the last time, so it's like ali, fraser. so they are making this big dramatic thing. >> down goes romney. >> that's right. >> but i'm, you know, i imagine that president obama who is highly intelligent will be well prepared and certainly finally eviscerate the robot from plan any underwear or whatever -- >> stephanie: jim from jersey you are on with belzer. >> caller: hi i would like to know when are hard-working

families red and blue going to start voting for their own votes instead of bain capital's wants. it is just his buddies pissing on the middle class and then trying to convince them it is a shower. >> stephanie: chris is having a bad day. to dump or not to dump. >> there is a book by thomas frank called what is the matter with kansas. in england it is called what is the matter with america, but it addresses what you are saying, is people will vote against their own self interests over so-called social reasons. my wife has asbestos poisoning because of her job, i lost a relative on iraq i'm on disability and unemployment, but gays can't get married.

>> stephanie: yeah. >> so how do you reason with that? >> stephanie: yeah. >> there are certain people that i think are beyond reason. >> stephanie: yeah. that's well said. dana in maryland you are on with richard belzer. hello, dana. >> caller: good morning, everybody. richard it is an honor to speak with you. >> oh no no no. >> caller: and as a fellow jewish women from the tribe, i think getting thrown off of fox you should wear as a badge of honor, and i agree with you about ann coulter i saw that show the night you were on, and i was hoping she wasn't on the panel with you, poor guy. >> yeah. >> caller: she is scary. >> she is. >> caller: i'm going to read your book next. right now i'm reading the republican brain, which is very interesting. and i'm wondering whether the

president should bring up free port illinois and the jobs shipping to china through bain capital. >> i genuinely believe that the president will hit all of those numbers that his -- his supporters want him to hit and are mystified why he hasn't particularly in the first debate mentioned bain capital and all of the things that joe biden did so well, so i imagine he would be counseled -- not that he needed counseled -- but i think he will have his gloves off. richard belzer i am a special victim of your charm. oh, yes, i did. his book is "dead wrong." >> and we didn't get to talk a lot about the book, but it's about martin luther king it's a

great book -- >> stephanie: i love you richard belzer. watch our debate special tonight. >> i'm there.